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It was a group of Libertarians who changed the course of the 1992 Election 
  
Unknown Libertarian History
If you are a libertarian activist, in the Libertarian Party, a Green, Reform or registered in one of the 'Major' parties,  or an Independent, you may or may not  know some of the names above.  They all agreed on the need for people to have greater control of who governs, and solutions, eliminating government if possible, getting the voters to voluntarily support TV airtime for candidates instead of fatcats.  They agreed the economy could be transferred into the free-market, achieving stability using the loan tool, Percentage-As-You-Earn (%PAYE) finance & medical finansurance covering pre-existing conditions, insurance, and Personal Investments. d’Avignon had researched %PAYE over the previous twenty years, originally proposed by Economist Milton Friedman.

PhoneVoter offered services to all 64 presidential candidates running.  The four who responded were Ross Perot, Jerry Brown, Pat Buchanan and Bill Clinton.  

The reactions of each candidate to the offer proved to be revealing.  

Note:  No Libertarian candidate for president ever responded except for Lee Wrights, who said he could not afford it even though Brock patiently explained the economic realities of how TV generates profits.  This included the fact that NO One in TV spends money on a show until the advertising is sold.  

  January 21, 1992

Brock d’Avignon, a founder of PhoneVoter TV Networks (PVN), picked the smaller new satellite TV audience to avoid the overload problem for the Bell monopoly trying to accommodate opinions from the broadcast TV audience. Starting his company on January 21st, the next day after Bush's State of the Union Address, which had offered the opportunity for viewers to PhoneVote on issues, had taken down 7 phone companies. Brock immediately understood what had taken place, seeing the  technological opportunity. 

Brock then persuaded Keystone Satellite Communications to provide free satellite time, valued at $150,000 per month per channel, with first and last month free satellite time.  Also available was a Democracy Channel, RepubliCan Channel, or Grassroots Channel; these were never used.  

On a smaller scale, presidential hopefuls could introduce themselves and panelists, if they used PhoneVoter TV with response tallies.  This was considered by Keystone as a loss-leader to build up satellite use in new markets, making 4 entire transponder channels available with marketing to the satellite audience. 
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Brock d’Avignon and a team of volitional scientists, non-political libertarians, began working from Athena Graphics, owned and operated by Lawrence Samuals, a long-time Libertarian, in a small office in Costa Mesa, California, to give American voters a voice in their electoral system using mass-audience TV which allowed the audience to use telephone touchtone buttons AGREE/DISAGREE with candidates.  With satellite, this would work.   
Of the four candidates, Perot was first, starting in January.  Perot’s rise in popularity was linked to Telepoll 700-800-900#, owned and programmed by Gary Tomlinson for Owners of America, Inc. Telepoll offering AGREE – DISAGREE votes. Tomlinson delegated to d’Avignon of PhoneVoter TV and Perot’s two media mavens to decide questions to ask.  From January until March, PhoneVoting took place entirely by telephone, questions recorded and asked by telephone automatically. Results went to the exact congresspersons of the pollvoters and to the media, each week from early February 1992 on.  d'Avignon wrote and faxed the PhoneVoter questions to Owners of America, Inc. who had Capitol Calling Cards printed and sold to promote the phenomena into humdreds of thousands of participants, deluging Congress and media with tallies. 

Finally, someone was listening.   Elated, support for Perot began to rise in the polls at a steady rate of 2 points a day.

By June, Perot led a Gallup poll with 39% of the vote thanks to the combined efforts of PhoneVoter and TelePoll, paid for entirely by Owners of America, Inc., not Perot.  Perot had made history by using PhoneVoter. ​
​​The CNN appearance on Larry King aired on February 20, 1992. This was a reaction to Perot’s rising 8% popularity, originating from voters’ ability to respond to the statements they heard through their phones, using their Capitol Calling Cards to deduct $1 from the $20 card.  Perot advocated, electronic direct democracy via electronic town halls as well.  The tallies were a step in that direction, powering the campaign, and the wish of Americans to have a part in decisions being made. PhoneVoter TV could not get Perot to spend money on satellite TV, and worked with other candidates who did.​​

In May, Perot hired Ed Rollins, a former consultant for Ronald Reagan, and everyone in the campaign expected Perot to begin buying satellite time through PhoneVoter and making use of the Presidential Candidates’ Unedited Speech, and to participate in the Presidential Candidates’ Debate Tournament. 

Instead, on July 16th Rollins resigned because his advice was not being taken, and two days later Perot quit the race, coming back in September to stop the threat of Bo Gritz taking his place with Owners of America, Inc. Perot seemed to be playing spoiler in more than Texas anti-Bush politics. PhoneVoter TV Network had offered the Telepoll and TV options to Gritz when Perot bowed out. 

Perot had depended on appearances made on other people’s TV shows, but those invitations came in because the PhoneVotes, paid for by those who purchased the Calling Cards, were being counted and the results sent to all members of the US Congress and all News Directors.     
  
If Perot had not been too cheap to pay for Satellite time, he would likely have been the next president.  Satellite TV for the whole year would have cost him only $2M.

At the time of Super Tuesday, Clinton was in Illinois confronting his lack of financing and need to beat former Governor of California, Jerry Brown.  Former Massachusetts Senator Paul E. Tsongas left the race on March 17th, leaving only Brown as a problem.  Bill knew he was no match for Brown in a face to face debate.  The Clinton charm fell flat with Jerry Brown who was quirky but honestly looking for solutions to problems and was confrontational about the lack of ethics of both Bill and Hillary.  
 
It was now, or never, for Bill and Hillary’s presidential ambitions.  It is likely they had calculated the power of the presidency for quashing investigations before the election took place. 

Two men, who identified themselves as ‘Charles Marcus and Frank Greer’ began calling PhoneVoter TV to ask detailed questions in response to faxed proposals, about satellite technology and about costs in Mid-March.  Marcus said nothing except to state, when the subject of the cost was raised, there was not have enough to pay for anything like a channel, but what could they get for $50,000 which they said was all they had.  So how could they get satellite?  The dialog continued over the phone and by fax.  Brock prepared a proposal specifically for the Clinton Campaign dated May 22, 1992.  LINK   The record of some of the advice provided to ‘Marcus’ is handwritten at the bottom.  The consultations continued, evidently, while Bill and Greer were arranging to rip PhoneVoter off, never paying them.  

Marcus and Greer evaded discussing the Interactive shows which would have put Bill into debates with other candidates such as Jerry Brown who called him a “scandal-a-day-candidate.”   They said, “We’ll get back to you on that.”​​
Always trusting and helpful, Brock told the Clintons there was only one Satellite Uplink truck still available in the entire country.  Brock sent them the Keystone Quote Page, having already told them even though they did not have enough to pay the first and last month for satellite they could, with the truck, send their content up themselves.  The Uplink Truck’s cost for one month was $35,000.  Brock then advised them the remaining $15,000 must be spent notifying Network TV and local News Directors where to aim their satellite receiver dishes, via phone, telex, fax, and TWIX so they could obtain the warm words and sweet smiles of Bill Clinton in diners, which would be raining down from the sky.  The money would not be a problem, Brock promised them, gas money would arrive, and they quickly discovered the truth of this. 

Brock kept copies of proposals with an important note LINK
Brock outlined Bill’s Roadshow format for him, assuming Clinton wanted to give Americans a voice through PhoneVoter as discussed as they soon could afford it. Instead, the Clintons cheated Keystone going around Keystone to get the same uplink truck, and it wasn’t for the price, it was the same. The PhoneVoter TV would have exposed Bill to debating. 

Bill Clinton refused to participate in programming which allowed voters to AGREE/DISAGREE with his ideas, and avoided formal nationwide debates. Clinton used satellite from April 1 through the election on November 2.

Frank Greer was then the Clinton Media Consultant – but no one named ‘Charlie Marcus’ ever worked for the Clinton Campaign.  Brock realized the deference Greer showed to Marcus, made it obvious, in retrospect, the second voice was Bill Clinton.  Unfolding events proved Greer and the Clintons could learn fast about the technologies which today drive media.  As is always the case with technologies, these are now, themselves, vulnerable to market preferences.  

Brock's background includes detailed understanding of developing technologies of multiple kinds, from communications to aerospace.  

Buchanan and Brown had nothing to hide.  Perot might have – but Clinton absolutely did, Gennifer Flowers being only one of these issues.

The two technologies coupled together for the first time in 1992, Satellite and primitive interaction, went on to remove the most popular president in history, George H. W. Bush having an 89% popularity rating in January 1992. 

After Clinton's shocking victory steps were taken to ensure this did not happen again by both BushCo and the Clintons.  But Clinton used ONLY on satellite in his 1996 campaign, taking every step possible to evade any interaction with voters which allowed them to ask questions and get an answer which was broadcast.

The clips from the Unedited Presidential Candidate Speeches below, by Gov. Jerry Brown and Pat Buchanan show they were using the first phone-based Interactive technology which allowed audience participation.  This caused their campaigns to increase in the polls at a rate of 2% a day.   People wanted to be heard and Brown, Buchanan, and Perot give voters what they most wanted.  

 The Perot Campaign

Clinton Non-Ethics in Operation

Libertarians, those who might have been assumed to be the most well-informed technologically, remained inert.  

Lee Wrights, one Libertarian candidate running for the LP nomination in 1991, immediately understood the power of Interactive technologies.  But Lee could not get past the assumption the Main Stream Media made TV impossible.  Brock was having this same problem with both Libertarians and all other candidates except the four mentioned.   

Even by 2017, the National LP, nor any of its officers, to date, has never answered the phone or responded to phone messages, snail mail, faxes or emails sent offering them free or volume discount coast-to-coast satellite TV airtime for shows and debates in 1992, 1995-6, 2000, 2016.  Neither have the other minor parties.

Their alternative plans didn’t do too well, did they?  But rest assured, they LP paid very nice salaries to its 'professionals.' Even Ed Crane would have been happy.  
  

Jerry Brown and Pat Buchanan both participated in PhoneVoter's Unedited Presidential Candidate Speeches opportunity for just six weeks, from the end of April to the California Primary.  Their willingness to answer questions and hear at least a YES or NO from voters started their rise in polls before the June Primaries in 1992.  These speeches were run 16  times a day on satellite as part of their participation.  Jerry Brown would have been the Democratic nominee for president in 1992 if he had started a half a week earlier with his PhoneVoter participation.  It was that close.  
As you watch this 1992 Clinton ad you see he is all about the squishy message and includes no tangible solutions to anything.   This is how he and Hillary slid into the White House without having let anyone know their real intentions.  If they had been honest about; Hillary as co-president; involvement with Waco; federalizing health care;  would they have been elected?  No chance.  

Bill talked about affordable health care and then the ominous reality of HillaryCare loomed with its 398 teams working on what was going to be imposed on them.  ​

The Libertarian Party? LP Candidates?-- 1992